Faculty

How Pierre Ly paired global political economics with Chinese wine

Just outside the Chinese city of Xi鈥檃n, at the eastern end of the Silk Road, Pierre Ly, associate professor of international political economy, found himself in a winery unlike any he had visited before. In an area most famous for its terra-cotta warriors, Ly and his wife skipped the ancient statuary to taste wine before heading home鈥攖he winery was just a 15-minute drive from the airport. Entering a theater and donning special glasses, the couple expected a short film on the wine-making process. But then the seats shook, wind blew through their hair, and water sprayed their faces鈥攊t was a full 4D movie experience.

Next, they were invited to board a Disney-like ride, and as the cart jerked along, a brick wall opened: 鈥淎 Dracula-looking version of the founder of the winery popped up,鈥 Ly recalls. 鈥淚t was very strange.鈥 Later they watched a live theater piece鈥攐stensibly to describe food and wine pairings鈥攖hat involved actors being whisked away in a tornado.

Back in a rainy Seattle, over glasses of French and Italian wines at the cozy-modern pub Damn the Weather, Ly relates the story in his lilting French-accented English. (Ly grew up in, and was educated in, France.) It鈥檚 strange to picture a professor who teaches classes on international trade and finance unexpectedly belted into a carnivalesque ride鈥攁t a winery鈥6,000 miles from here. But Ly just shrugs. 鈥淲hen you do work in China, you have to be ready for really unexpected things,鈥 he says, then takes a sip of a bubbly Italian white wine.

He should know. Ly and his wife, Cynthia Howson (a senior lecturer at the University of Washington), have made eight trips to China over the last six years to research the country鈥檚 wine and its wine economy. The result is a book, Adventures on the China Wine Trail, published by Rowman and Littlefield in February. The book has already earned Gourmand International鈥檚 Best in the World award for 2020 in the Wine and Beer Tourism category.

Ly, director of the International Political Economy Program at Puget Sound, joined the faculty in 2008. The head of the program at the time, Mike Veseth 鈥72, was teaching a popular class called The Idea of Wine, which looked at the local and global political, economic, and social forces that shape wine production and consumption. Veseth had earned a reputation in the wine industry as the 鈥渨ine economist.鈥

As Veseth moved toward retirement, Ly took over a couple of his classes in international political economy, but there was never an obvious plan for him to do the same with the wine class鈥攐r at least it didn鈥檛 seem that way: 鈥淢y wife is pretty sure that he subtly groomed me into it,鈥 says Ly. 鈥淔irst he invited me to the wine tasting. Later, when he was traveling, he asked if I would guest lecture, and I overprepared for it by reading all the books on the syllabus. I really liked the subject and it was fun, but it wasn鈥檛 on my radar to take [the class] over.鈥

Good wine is grown all over the world, sometimes in unexpected places, says Ly.

Ly has been teaching the wine class ever since Veseth retired in 2013, and it has taken his life down a previously unexpected path. Growing up in France exposed Ly to plenty of wine, and he even had a maternal grandfather who had been a wine merchant in Bordeaux. But Ly had only a casual interest in wine before he came to Puget Sound.

Ly鈥檚 background in international political economy influenced his wine explorations, as he looked for places where wine could tell new stories of commerce and trade. He was interested in China鈥檚 economic growth and realized he could understand it, and teach about it, through its wine industry. In 2015, he took part in a faculty exchange program between Puget Sound and Fujian Normal University鈥攁n exchange sponsored by the Trimble Foundation, which also provided funding to Ly for later research. 鈥淎t first, it was going to be a fairly short-term thing鈥攎y wife and I would go to China once or twice and write a couple of papers and then move on. But as we worked, we discovered more and more layers,鈥 says Ly.

In China they looked at wine from every angle, seeking out not only winery owners and employees but also scientists and writers, as well as professors and students at university wine programs. 鈥淭he more we knew people, the more we got introduced around,鈥 he says. They interviewed wine marketers, wine shop owners, importers, restaurateurs鈥攅ven farmers who were selling grapes along the roadside.

Howson and Ly originally began their Chinese wine research as a purely academic project. But a few years into it, they decided to reach a broader audience by changing their writing style and by sharing travels and resources on Instagram and Twitter. A year ago, they started blogging as the 鈥淭raveling Wine Profs.鈥

Likewise, their book isn鈥檛 an academic read; it鈥檚 closer to a travel book. 鈥淲e asked ourselves, 鈥楬ow can we take the serious scholarship we present at academic conferences but get more people to care about it?鈥欌 Adventures on the China Wine Trail crisscrosses the country from Beijing to Shandong to Ningxia, as the duo visit both older and just-opened wineries. They find tasting rooms in traditional Chinese buildings, manors in the English mold, and European-style castles. Some wineries are so isolated or so new that they aren鈥檛 easy to find鈥擫y and Howson get stranded in a middle-of-nowhere field for hours when their driver gets lost and then has to fix a flat tire. They venture up to the cliffside city of Shangri-La to learn about a wine industry tucked in the surrounding mountains, with players ranging from small family growers to a venture headed by a multinational corpo-ration.

While the book covers wine and wineries, it鈥檚 also informed by Howson鈥檚 and Ly鈥檚 broader academic interests: It touches on the growth of the Chinese consumer society, how property law in a Communist country affects the ownership of grape-growing land, and how wine has brought education and job opportunities to Chinese farmers.

Chinese wine is booming. According to the book, China is the fifth-largest wine consuming country in the world. Most of its wine is sold domestically, so wine tourism is mostly for locals. That means that, superficially, visiting a Chinese winery might be different than going to one in the U.S.鈥攖hat family-friendly, Disney-like experience at the winery outside Xi鈥檃n is a good example. But the equipment, grape growing, production, and bottling are the same in China as they are elsewhere. You鈥檇 recognize the names of the varietals, many made from imported cuttings, like cabernet sauvignon, merlot, and chardonnay. 鈥淐hinese wines can be mistaken for French, Australian, and Californian wines,鈥 says Ly. There are a few hybridized grape varieties that are uniquely Chinese, like Beichun, which came out of a research project; 鈥渋t鈥檚 very resilient and has cold-hardy properties,鈥 Ly says. In southern Yunnan, winegrowers have developed varieties that can withstand the monsoon season. But overall, Ly says, 鈥済ood Chinese wine is like good wine anywhere.鈥

Ly鈥檚 wine trail doesn鈥檛 stop in China鈥攈e wants to explore the niche growers of Vietnam next. His curiosity comes at least partially from a family connection: Ly鈥檚 father is Vietnamese and immigrated from Vietnam to France. But his grandfather was Chinese, and as Ly did more research, 鈥渋t reconnected me with this part of my family heritage in a way I didn鈥檛 expect. It became more personal than I thought.鈥

His world travels have brought him other family, too: Ly met Howson, his wife, on an elevator in Bangladesh. She was working for the French school in that country, and he was doing research on NGOs for his Ph.D. They鈥檝e been married for 12 years. Howson has a wealth of experience in fieldwork (her research is on cross-border trade), and Ly says she鈥檚 great at getting people to talk, which came in handy during the book research. 鈥淚t鈥檚 not easy to do this work. There are lots of frustrating things鈥 closed doors and stuff that goes nowhere.鈥 But despite frustrations, the research and travel have cemented them as a team. 鈥淭his work allows us to do what we love and spend time together as part of our work,鈥 he says. 鈥淚t鈥檚 an extraordinary privilege.鈥

If you plan to visit China and want to try Chinese wine, Ly recommends a little research ahead of time.

It鈥檚 not all academic research and travel鈥擫y also teaches several courses in international political economy, as well as the beloved Idea of Wine class, each semester. The wine course isn鈥檛 a semesterlong wine club: Wine tasting is limited to a few optional, after-class meetings, and the bulk of the class is about appreciating wine in a different way鈥攁s a microcosm of economic forces. As a Connections course, it鈥檚 meant to unite seemingly disparate parts of the liberal arts curriculum. It鈥檚 available only to juniors and seniors, reflecting both the legal drinking age and the complexity of the subject matter.

Ly鈥檚 class starts with the nuts and bolts of wine production. 鈥淢ost students come with very little knowledge of wine or even how it鈥檚 made鈥攚hich is true of most people anyway,鈥 he says. 鈥淪o we start in the vineyard with the grape.鈥 Wine is an agricultural product, made by fermenting grape juice鈥攂ut the simplicity ends there. Wine is a bottle on the shelf with a value, but it鈥檚 also a link to shared history, an intoxicant, and a beverage uniquely flavored by rainfall, sunlight, and geology. Some people taste, some quaff, some collect. And the 鈥渂est鈥 wine, unlike in many other products, is incredibly subjective. 鈥淭he idea of wine is complicated. It means different things to different people鈥攊ncluding people who disagree with each other. That attracted me to teaching it,鈥 says Ly. The point of the class is to help students understand how culture, economics, and agriculture come together with the ineffable: the value a person puts on a fleeting flavor, an experience, a memory.

After covering the basics, Ly gets into geography鈥攚here wine grapes are grown and wine is made, and why. The class then delves into the wine business more broadly, as well as wine policy and trade in the European Union, U.S., and elsewhere: regulations, tariffs, trade disputes, sustainability, even immigration policy (鈥渨hich impacts farming a lot, because of the people who typically work in vineyards,鈥 Ly says).

Finally, Ly talks about how wine reflects the society it comes from鈥斺渨ith all the beautiful and terrible things that can include.鈥 Like other industries鈥攆ashion, tech, even other agricultural sectors鈥攚ine can provide opportunities for economic development, job creation, and investment. But, also like those other industries, wine production has its drawbacks: using up vital resources or destroying natural habitat, for instance. 鈥淢ore and more, students are connecting wine with climate change,鈥 Ly says. 鈥淎nd last year, I had our first couple of papers where students were talking about diversity and inclusion in the industry.鈥

Tasting wine together a couple of times gives space for students to talk informally about the higher-level topics covered in the syllabus. Ly also asks them to keep wine journals, asking them to choose and write about wines that connect with issues talked about in class. 鈥淚 want them to look at a bottle of wine and think about it through the lens of the class,鈥 he says. So, as the students sip, they鈥檙e thinking about who picked the grapes, how much they were paid, what impact climate change might have on the future of that wine, and who reaps the profits from that wine鈥檚 purchase鈥攕mall grower or large corporation.

The whole point is to get students thinking about how an agricultural product affects lives, economies, and the environment, and how it connects an increasingly globalized world. 鈥淲hen you spend a few months of your life thinking critically about wine, it sticks in the back of your mind somewhere,鈥 says Ly. 鈥淲hether you care for the product or not, wine will connect with things you do care about.鈥